I agree. More to the point, would you let your partner and children and parents go under a machete for your personal political views? There's all kinds of places where people learn not to ask too many questions, because those who do have bad things happen to them or their families, or folks simply disappear. The pro-torture folks seem to me to be taking a very long broad-jump toward making our country operate in that same way, which infuriates me for several reasons. Aside from the protection of corrupt people in power, and whatever your views on social policy and entitlements, from a purly competitive capitolist businss point of view, it's incredibly stupid. Corrupt governments do not serve business as well as those who have clearly enforced rule of law applied more fairly to everyone. I believe twistedchick had links to studies on that topic some months ago, veryinteresting stuff. But she posts a lot of links! More recently, she posted a link today to an ex-FBI agent discussing how torture fails to get the inquisitor what they claim they want, accurate information. Givent hat we *know* this, I see no more excuse for it than for letting the genocide in Darfur carry on without interference by an effective government.
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Date: 2006-09-18 03:44 am (UTC)The pro-torture folks seem to me to be taking a very long broad-jump toward making our country operate in that same way, which infuriates me for several reasons.
Aside from the protection of corrupt people in power, and whatever your views on social policy and entitlements, from a purly competitive capitolist businss point of view, it's incredibly stupid. Corrupt governments do not serve business as well as those who have clearly enforced rule of law applied more fairly to everyone. I believe
Givent hat we *know* this, I see no more excuse for it than for letting the genocide in Darfur carry on without interference by an effective government.