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Mélusine gets panned over at Associated Content.
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Date: 2006-10-07 02:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com
Ouch. She really didn't like it, did she? :(

Date: 2006-10-07 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
Regardless of whether I feel the reviewer had valid or invalid points (which is really kinda null because I just got home from good sushi and nothing can be bad in my world post-good-sushi so naturally this review's negative parts are not even worth noticing, because, hey, SUSHI), is it just me or does it seem like she cut & paste the phrase "Sarah Monette" about fifty bazillion times in the review? Maybe it's a reviewer's quirk, maybe it's some kind of psychological tick thanks to a little too much medication (or sushi?, no, wait, that's just me) but it started to feel like it was the right moment to write the reviewer and say, "reviewer, meet pronoun, pronoun, meet reviewer."

I believe everyone has their idiosyncracies, and I also believe now I'll have another drink. Since, y'know, sushi gone. Sadness. But only in the sense of good-over-now sadness.

Date: 2006-10-07 02:44 am (UTC)
ext_481: origami crane (Default)
From: [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
hm. so she didn't like it at all, but rated it a 3.8? or is that how people are rating her review ... ah yes, i think that's it. ok, that explains that. :) pardon me while i lower that a little...

so what's with the liberal strewing of "sarah monette" throughout the review? i was tempted to count them, it was that obvoxious (not a typo :). does she have a personal beef here? i've noticed that people who do not like me use my name a lot more often when addressing me or speaking about me than people who do like me.

not a habit that makes me look forward to her own novel, for which she's apparently going to write a couple of paragraphs now that queerdom's been so sadly let down by SARAH MONETTE.

Date: 2006-10-07 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
Sushi is a victory condition.

Date: 2006-10-07 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithiliana.livejournal.com
*shrugs* If she really wants mediocre fantasy, I can direct her to some -- and darn it, must write my review, -- but we apparently read very different novels. Maybe it's because I don't have a queer book club, darn it! I actually cannot stand book clubs, having been in several of them, and they always make me turn violence -- for one thing, it takes so long for people to read books, and for another, they say such stupid things about them. (And I teach English, so if I have to hear ill informed comments about books, I'm damn well going to to get paid for it.) I am fascinated by the way the different schools of wizardry work -- for me, any confusion would be only because each school was limited in what they could know or do, each "discipline" or (ack) department (sorry, academia!) not willing to talk to each other, and obviously a whole lot of unethical and corrupt stuff going on underneath it all.

Date: 2006-10-07 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithiliana.livejournal.com
*whistles innocently*

It's now down to 3.3, tra la la...

Date: 2006-10-07 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithiliana.livejournal.com
i should stop. blood pressure going up.

us classless American types not understanding status, nobility, etc.

because, um, we're seeing through two point of view characters who are not from the nobility, from the lowest of the lowest social strata, and who would therefore not necessarily "understand" the inner lives (snort, yep, all those sensitive inner feelings of those noble types?) of the nobility in the same way someone born into that class would be.

Date: 2006-10-07 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pabba.livejournal.com
Maybe you can review her masterpiece once she finishes it and point out that she called dollar bills Centaurs. I liked Melusine!!

Date: 2006-10-07 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Sheesh, [livejournal.com profile] truepenny. Why couldn't Felix have been raped more butchly? And don't you think the character of a brutalized child sold into a brothel would have been a lot more realistic if it were informed by the modern liberated sex workers' movement?

Date: 2006-10-07 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrorthaw.livejournal.com
Me, personally, I have no opinion on that review, none whatsoever. Really. I swear it. Johnny over there in the icon, on the other hand....he looks a little upset.

Date: 2006-10-07 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com
...don't make me write a butch same-sex rape scene.

Just don't.

(*loff*)

Date: 2006-10-07 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xenacryst.livejournal.com
Well, what a fine review... Myself, I just have to say that I picked up Melusine earlier this week (as I had been meaning to for quite some time), and am thoroughly enjoying it.

Date: 2006-10-07 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpolk.livejournal.com
2.8, when I looked.

Date: 2006-10-07 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydaiya.livejournal.com
Felix isn't girly. I've read stories with feminized men and, believe me, Felix doesn't come close.

Hi. Inveterate lurker here, but thought you might appreciate some support after that idiotic review. I note that she's got a journalism degree, which might explain a lot. One of my basic English courses in college was taught by a journalism professor, and I realized that there were going to be problems when I got my first paper back; she wanted all of the sentences brief and the word choice simple.

Honestly, the whole thing felt extremely petty to me, as if she didn't want to read it in the first place and was therefore determined to find fault. To say you used all of the tropes of fantasy is absurd. I'm sure I would have remembered magic swords, bards with "the Voice" and telepathic animals had they appeared. And you should have studied the actual practice of magic in this world to make your magic better? So what, writers should only use magic in their books if it's "real" magic? Quick, someboyd notify, um, the majority of fantasy writers out there. No gorgons appeared in the book, therefore the world has no gorgons and calling the money that makes no sense. Riight.

Given this woman's apparent inability to reason logically, I can't imagine any book she might write would be very readable. "The action is set at inn named The Cocks Crow! Now I must be certain to make mention of cocks somewhere in the text so that it is clear that they exist in this world and that calling an inn that is legitimate!" Of course, she did not specify she was writing about another world, so maybe she needn't go to those lengths. Still. The woman's intelligence (note I have not once used even her last name, yet my subject remains obvious!) does not impress me, and I find it impossible to do anything but shrug impatiently in her general direction.

Hope this makes you feel a bit better!

Date: 2006-10-07 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
2.6 now. Gee, wonder how that happened?

Date: 2006-10-07 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
My ribs ache from laughing. Thank you!

Date: 2006-10-07 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
I love it when reviewers fall into the Mirror Universe. Now, remind me--is it you that's evil and bearded, or your twin?

Date: 2006-10-07 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourssincerely.livejournal.com
Everyone's got their critics - some people were born to be critics and can never find (or at least appreciate) the good in things. She may think the plot wasn't deep enough or that the characters didn't develop well, but I think for the first book in the series, you put in just enough information to keep us interested, but not so much that you have nothing to tell us in the next few books. I am quite pleased with where the characters and plot stand after Mélusine because I realize that there is room for development, which is crucial in a series - how else will you hold our interest? That's just my amateurish two cents.

Date: 2006-10-07 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-lynch.livejournal.com
Haven't read the book yet (it's sitting on my bookshelf in lovely hardcover, waiting to be devoured), but that was a dismal, presumptuous, dilletante-ish sort of review that deserved no brow-furrowing. In fact, it's sort of a badge of honor to be thought of as 'mediocre' by someone who honestly thinks that "real-world magical theory" needs to inform fictional thaumaturgy.

Date: 2006-10-07 04:06 am (UTC)
heresluck: (demon mutant fennel)
From: [personal profile] heresluck
My demon mutant fennel of DOOM salutes your pissed-off Johnny Cash.

Date: 2006-10-07 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com
Erm. Is it bad to say I bounced off the text of the review in the first paragraph and skimmed until the third, when I closed it?

Date: 2006-10-07 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
A few hours more post-sushi and I'm glad I'm not the only one who twigged on that; when I read the review, I honestly figured that tidbit had to be due to a little too much spicy tuna and couldn't possibly have been real. I mean, saying a fantasy author's work should be informed by "real-world magical theory" is sort of like, what, saying Star Trek should be informed by "real-world transporter theory"?

Date: 2006-10-07 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mincedniku.livejournal.com
In an attempt to help counteract any negative side effects that review may have caused you, I'd just like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed Mélusine. I don't read a lot, mainly because I have such a short attention span that it's very difficult for me to get into books. I was so~ happy to be reading Mélusine because it wasn't boring. At all. And that's saying a lot coming from me. xD I don't think it was cliché at all and really liked your approach on how you handled the world. In fact, the biggest problem I had with it was that the Felix on the cover didn't have the right eyes or the scars on his back (which has nothing to do with you), but I think that's just the artist in me being picky. Haha.

So yes, while there will always be people out there who hate what you do, don't forget that there are just as many, if not more, who love your work. Thank you so much for sharing your talent. I just got The Virtu in the mail today and I'm already on Chapter 7, though I cheated and read the first four chapters online because I was too impatient to wait for the book to arrive. :D :D :D

Date: 2006-10-07 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trista.livejournal.com
is it just me or does it seem like she cut & paste the phrase "Sarah Monette" about fifty bazillion times in the review?

Wasn't that irritating? Ugh. It's difficult to take such a poorly-written review seriously. The horrific over-use of "Sarah Monette" was only the beginning. If she's going to be snarky, she could at least do it well.

Date: 2006-10-07 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-lynch.livejournal.com
Plus, it's one thing to say, "This novel uses the hoary old tropes of fantasy in a bland, thoughtless, and unexamined way and is therefore mediocre," and another thing entirely to say "this novel is self-evidently mediocre merely because it uses some of the common tropes of fantasy." Condescension city.
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