So a geek walks into a bookstore ...
Mar. 3rd, 2003 08:37 am'cause
melymbrosia asked.
I think that for the weird purposes of my brain, books don't exist until they, you know, exist. So no forthcoming books listed, just stuff that's already been printed.
NON-FICTION
J. Adair, The Pilgrim's Way: Shrines and Saints in Britain and Ireland
P. Aries, The Hour of Our Death
K. Ashley and P. Sheingorn, Interpreting Cultural Symbols: St. Anne in Late Medieval Society
P. Barber, Vampires, Burial and Death
Elizabeth Benedict, The Joy of Writing Sex
H. S. Bennett, English Books and Readers 1475-1557
Carol Bly, The Passion of Accurate Story
Robert Bogden, Freak Show
Stephen Booth, King Lear, Macbeth, Indefinition, and Tragedy
Bowditch, New American Practical Navigator
John Carter, ABC for Book Collectors
J. M. Clark The Dance of Death in the Middle Ages and Renaissance
R. M. Clay, The Hermits and Anchorites of England and The Medieval Hospitals of England
J. C. Cruz, The Incorruptibles: A Study of the Incorruption of the Bodies of Various Catholic Saints and Beati
A. R. David and E. Tapp (editors), The Mummy's Tale: The Scientific and Medical Investigations of Natsef-Amun, Priest in the Temple at Karnak
D. H. Farmer, The Oxford Dictionary of Saints
R. C. Finucane, Miracles and Pilgrims: Popular Beliefs in Medieval England
William & Elizabeth Friedman, The Shakespearean Ciphers Examined
J. H. G. Gratton and C. Singer, Anglo-Saxon Magic and Medicine
Stephen Greenblatt, Hamlet and Purgatory
D. J. Hall, English Medieval Pilgrimage
Dorothy Hartley, Lost Country Lives, The History of Private Lives
T. J. Heffernan, Sacred Biography: Saints and their Biographers in the Middle Ages
Herman, Trauma & Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence--from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror
C. Hole, Saints in Folklore
J. Hughes, Pastors and Visionaries: Religion and Secular Life in Late Medieval Yorkshire
David Langford, The Silence of the Langford
M. Mitchiner, Medieval Pilgrim and Secular Badges
Neese and Williams, Why We Get Sick: The New Science of Darwinian Medicine
Teresa Nielsen Hayden, Making Book
Dorothy Parker (I want a collection of her reviews and criticism, although so far I haven't been able to find one.)
Pamela Petro, Travels in an Old Tongue
Carol Queen, Exhibitionism for the Shy
S. Ridyard, The Royal Saints of Anglo-Saxon England
M. Ragon, The Space of Death: A Study of Funerary Architecture, Decoration, and Urbanism
Oliver Sacks, An Anthropologist on Mars
Michael Seidman, From Printout to Published: A Guide to the Publishing Process
Sex in America: The First Time
The Smithsonian Institute. Objects of Ethnography: The Poetics and Politics of Museum Displays
Michelle Stacey, The Fasting Girl
J. Sumption, Pilgrimage
J. H. M. Taylor (ed.), Dias Ille: Death in the Middle Ages
Keith Thomas, Religion and the Decline of Magic
A. Vauchez, Sainthood in the Later Middle Ages
K. Verdery, The Political Lives of Dead Bodies: Reburial and Post-socialist Change
B. Ward, Miracles and the Medieval Mind
Lyall Watson, Dark Nature: A Natural History of Evil
Kenny Werner, Effortless Mastery
FICTION, AUTOBIOGRAPHY, ETC.
Sharon Baker, Quarrelling, They Met the Dragon, Journey to Membliar, and Burning Tears of Sassurum
John Barnes, One for the Morning Glory
Nina Bawden, The Witch's Daughter
Bruce Bethke, Headcrash
Ernest Bramah's Kai-Lung books
Judy Budnitz, Flying Leap
Anthony Burgess, A Dead Man in Deptford and Earthly Powers
John Dickson Carr, It Walks by Night, Castle Skull, The Lost Gallows, the Mad Hatter Mystery, The Eight of Swords, The Problem of the Green Capsule (A.P.A. The Black Spectacles), The Case of the Constant Suicide, Till Death Do Us Part, The Sleeping Sphinx, The Dead Man's Knock, In Spite of Thunder, Panic in Box C, Dr. Fell, Detective, and Other Stories
Sarah Caudwell, The Shortest Way to Hades, The Sibyl in Her Grave, Thus was Adonis Murdered
C. J. Cherryh, Cyteen
Edmund Crispin, The Moving Toyshop, Buried for Pleasure, Frequent Hearses, The Glimpses of the Moon
Les Daniels, The Black Castle
Avram Davidson, Adventures in Unhistory
Pamela Dean's Secret Country books
Peter Dickinson, Annerton Pit
Candas Jane Dorsey, A Paradigm of Earth
Mark Doty, Heaven's Coast
Helen Dunmore, Burning Bright
Jean Ross Ewing, Illusion
Nicholas Fisk, A Rag, A Bone, and A Hank of Hair
John M. Ford, an embarrassingly large number of books (I have The Dragon Waiting and The Last Hot Time; I've read Growing Up Weightless but my copy seems to have mysteriously dematerialized)
Karen Joy Fowler, Sister Noon
Christopher Fry, The Lady's Not for Burning
Paul Fussell, The Boy Scout Handbook, Thank God for the Atom Bomb
Alan Garner, Red Shift
Molly Gloss, Outside the Gates
Christopher Golden, Strangewood
Goscinny & Uderzo's Asterix books (all of which I have read, but none of which I own *weeps*)
Hiromi Goto, The Kappa Child
Barbara Hambly, Wet Grave
Herge's Tintin books (see Goscinny & Uderzo above)
Georgette Heyer, The Black Moth, Black Sheep ('cause I have these little completist twitches sometimes)
M. R. James, A Pleasing Terror (complete M. R. James, put out by Ash-Tree Press. WANT.)
Kij Johnson, The Fox Woman
Diana Wynne Jones, Wilkins' Tooth (publ. in USA as Witch's Business), The Skiver's Guide, Changeover, Puss in boots, Wild Robert, Yes, Dear
Gwyneth Jones, White Queen
Gerald Kersh, Men Without Bones
Laura Kinsale, My Sweet Folly
Russell Kirk, The Princess of All Lands
Nigel Kneale, Tomato Caine
Ronald A. Knox, The Footsteps at the Lock
William Kotzwinkle, Dr. Rat
Jane Langton, The Diamond in the Window
Emma Lathen, Come to Dust, Murder against the Grain, When in Greece, (as R. B. Dominic) Murder Sunny Side Up, Murder in High Places, There Is No Justice (A.P.A. Murder Out of Court), Unexpected Developments (A.P.A. A Flaw in the System), Epitaph for a Lobbyist, Murder out of Commission, The Attending Physician
Martha C. Lawrence, Murder in Scorpio, The Cold Heart of Capricorn, Aquarius Descending, Pisces Rising
Ursula K. Le Guin, Tales of Earthsea, The Other Wind
Fritz Leiber, Our Lady of Darkness
David Lodge, Trading Places
John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee mysteries
Ross Macdonald, The Way Some People Die, The Ivory Grin, Find a Victim, The Barbarous Coast, The Doomsters, The Instant Enemy, The Blue Hammer, The Name is Archer
Margaret Mahy, the books I don't have (i.e., everything except The Changeover, The Catalogue of the Universe, Memory)
William Mayne, Cuddy, Low Tide
Dave McKean, Cages
Naomi Mitchison, To the Chapel Perilous
Alan Moore, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, Promethea
Christopher Morley, Where the Blue Begins
Roger Norman, Albion's Dream
Anthony Price book which
papersky recommended to me in Minneapolis and the title of which I foolishly forgot to note down
Ellery Queen, The Spanish Cape Mystery, Halfway House, The Dragon's Teeth, The Finishing Stroke, The Fourth Side of the Triangle, A Study in Terror, The House of Brass
Paul Russell, Sea of Tranquility
Geoff Ryman, Lust
Sarah Schulman, People in Trouble
Bob Shaw, Night Walk
Sean Stewart, The Night Watch
Rex Stout, The League of Frightened Men, The Rubber Band, The Red Box, Too Many Cooks, Over My Dead Body, Where There's a Will, Black Orchids, Not Quite Dead Enough, And Be a Villain, The Second Confession, Trouble in Triplicate, In the Best Families, Three Doors to Death, Curtains for Three, Murder by the Book, Triple Jeopardy, Prisoner's Base, Three Men Out, Might As Well Be Dead, Three for the Chair, And Four to Go, Plot It Yourself, Three at Wolfe's Door, The Final Deduction, Homicide Trinity, The Mother Hunt, A Right to Die, Trio for Blunt Instruments, The Doorbell Rang, The Father Hunt, Death of a Dude
Theodore Sturgeon, Caviar, The Dreaming Jewels, Some of Your Blood
Somtow Sucharitkul, Starship, Haiku
Michael Swanwick, Stations of the Tide, The Iron Dragon's Daughter, Bones of the Earth
Donna Tartt, The Little Friend
Lucy Taylor, The Safety of Unknown Cities
Paul Theroux, The Black House
Cecelia Tishy, Jealous Heart, Cryin' Game, Fall to Pieces
Thomas Tryon, The Other
Jill Tweedie, Letters from a Fainthearted Feminist
Jack Vance (and, um, recommendations for where to start would be gratefully received)
Virgil, the Loeb with Aeneid 6-12 (I adore the Loebs, but I also despise and revile them for their habit of chopping up longer words between two books, because, you know, those little teeny red books, they ain't cheap)
Sylvia Townsend Warner, Kingdoms of Elfin, Mr. Fortune's Maggot
Colin Watson's Flaxborough books
Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer, Sorcery and Cecelia
John Wyndham, The Chrysalids
Roger Zelazny, A Night in the Lonesome October
POETRY
(This is just going to be a list of authors, because for many of them I haven't hunted out specific titles; some of these are poets I already own books by, and some of them aren't.)
William Carpenter
Fred Chappell
Babette Deutsch
William Dickey
Patricia Dobler
Susan Donnelly
Rita Dove
Alan Dugan
Stephen Dunn
Jane Flanders
Robert Frost
Alice Fulton
George Garrett
Sandra Gilbert
Elton Glaser
Patricia Hampl
Michael S. Harper
William Hathaway
Linda Hogan
Jonathan Holden
David Ignatow
X. J. Kennedy
David Kirby
Ronald Koertge
Jeanne Larsen
Sydney Lea
Adam LeFevre
Larry Levis
Philip Larkin
Philip Lopate
Susan Ludvigson
Charles Martin
Dan Masterton
Walter McDonald
Sandra McPherson
Peter Meinke
Lisel Mueller
Sharon Olds
Alicia Ostriker
Robert Pinsky
Stanley Plumly
Wyatt Prunty
Pattiann Rogers
Gibbons Ruark
Vern Rutsala
Harvey Shapiro
Richard Shelton
Peggy Shumaker
Cathy Song
Elizabeth Spires
Maura Stanton
David St. John
James Tate
Leslie Ullman
Constance Urdang
Michael Van Walleghen
David Wagoner
David Wojahn
Robert Wrigley
Paul Zimmer
I think that for the weird purposes of my brain, books don't exist until they, you know, exist. So no forthcoming books listed, just stuff that's already been printed.
NON-FICTION
J. Adair, The Pilgrim's Way: Shrines and Saints in Britain and Ireland
P. Aries, The Hour of Our Death
K. Ashley and P. Sheingorn, Interpreting Cultural Symbols: St. Anne in Late Medieval Society
P. Barber, Vampires, Burial and Death
Elizabeth Benedict, The Joy of Writing Sex
H. S. Bennett, English Books and Readers 1475-1557
Carol Bly, The Passion of Accurate Story
Robert Bogden, Freak Show
Stephen Booth, King Lear, Macbeth, Indefinition, and Tragedy
Bowditch, New American Practical Navigator
John Carter, ABC for Book Collectors
J. M. Clark The Dance of Death in the Middle Ages and Renaissance
R. M. Clay, The Hermits and Anchorites of England and The Medieval Hospitals of England
J. C. Cruz, The Incorruptibles: A Study of the Incorruption of the Bodies of Various Catholic Saints and Beati
A. R. David and E. Tapp (editors), The Mummy's Tale: The Scientific and Medical Investigations of Natsef-Amun, Priest in the Temple at Karnak
D. H. Farmer, The Oxford Dictionary of Saints
R. C. Finucane, Miracles and Pilgrims: Popular Beliefs in Medieval England
William & Elizabeth Friedman, The Shakespearean Ciphers Examined
J. H. G. Gratton and C. Singer, Anglo-Saxon Magic and Medicine
Stephen Greenblatt, Hamlet and Purgatory
D. J. Hall, English Medieval Pilgrimage
Dorothy Hartley, Lost Country Lives, The History of Private Lives
T. J. Heffernan, Sacred Biography: Saints and their Biographers in the Middle Ages
Herman, Trauma & Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence--from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror
C. Hole, Saints in Folklore
J. Hughes, Pastors and Visionaries: Religion and Secular Life in Late Medieval Yorkshire
David Langford, The Silence of the Langford
M. Mitchiner, Medieval Pilgrim and Secular Badges
Neese and Williams, Why We Get Sick: The New Science of Darwinian Medicine
Teresa Nielsen Hayden, Making Book
Dorothy Parker (I want a collection of her reviews and criticism, although so far I haven't been able to find one.)
Pamela Petro, Travels in an Old Tongue
Carol Queen, Exhibitionism for the Shy
S. Ridyard, The Royal Saints of Anglo-Saxon England
M. Ragon, The Space of Death: A Study of Funerary Architecture, Decoration, and Urbanism
Oliver Sacks, An Anthropologist on Mars
Michael Seidman, From Printout to Published: A Guide to the Publishing Process
Sex in America: The First Time
The Smithsonian Institute. Objects of Ethnography: The Poetics and Politics of Museum Displays
Michelle Stacey, The Fasting Girl
J. Sumption, Pilgrimage
J. H. M. Taylor (ed.), Dias Ille: Death in the Middle Ages
Keith Thomas, Religion and the Decline of Magic
A. Vauchez, Sainthood in the Later Middle Ages
K. Verdery, The Political Lives of Dead Bodies: Reburial and Post-socialist Change
B. Ward, Miracles and the Medieval Mind
Lyall Watson, Dark Nature: A Natural History of Evil
Kenny Werner, Effortless Mastery
FICTION, AUTOBIOGRAPHY, ETC.
Sharon Baker, Quarrelling, They Met the Dragon, Journey to Membliar, and Burning Tears of Sassurum
John Barnes, One for the Morning Glory
Nina Bawden, The Witch's Daughter
Bruce Bethke, Headcrash
Ernest Bramah's Kai-Lung books
Judy Budnitz, Flying Leap
Anthony Burgess, A Dead Man in Deptford and Earthly Powers
John Dickson Carr, It Walks by Night, Castle Skull, The Lost Gallows, the Mad Hatter Mystery, The Eight of Swords, The Problem of the Green Capsule (A.P.A. The Black Spectacles), The Case of the Constant Suicide, Till Death Do Us Part, The Sleeping Sphinx, The Dead Man's Knock, In Spite of Thunder, Panic in Box C, Dr. Fell, Detective, and Other Stories
Sarah Caudwell, The Shortest Way to Hades, The Sibyl in Her Grave, Thus was Adonis Murdered
C. J. Cherryh, Cyteen
Edmund Crispin, The Moving Toyshop, Buried for Pleasure, Frequent Hearses, The Glimpses of the Moon
Les Daniels, The Black Castle
Avram Davidson, Adventures in Unhistory
Pamela Dean's Secret Country books
Peter Dickinson, Annerton Pit
Candas Jane Dorsey, A Paradigm of Earth
Mark Doty, Heaven's Coast
Helen Dunmore, Burning Bright
Jean Ross Ewing, Illusion
Nicholas Fisk, A Rag, A Bone, and A Hank of Hair
John M. Ford, an embarrassingly large number of books (I have The Dragon Waiting and The Last Hot Time; I've read Growing Up Weightless but my copy seems to have mysteriously dematerialized)
Karen Joy Fowler, Sister Noon
Christopher Fry, The Lady's Not for Burning
Paul Fussell, The Boy Scout Handbook, Thank God for the Atom Bomb
Alan Garner, Red Shift
Molly Gloss, Outside the Gates
Christopher Golden, Strangewood
Goscinny & Uderzo's Asterix books (all of which I have read, but none of which I own *weeps*)
Hiromi Goto, The Kappa Child
Barbara Hambly, Wet Grave
Herge's Tintin books (see Goscinny & Uderzo above)
Georgette Heyer, The Black Moth, Black Sheep ('cause I have these little completist twitches sometimes)
M. R. James, A Pleasing Terror (complete M. R. James, put out by Ash-Tree Press. WANT.)
Kij Johnson, The Fox Woman
Diana Wynne Jones, Wilkins' Tooth (publ. in USA as Witch's Business), The Skiver's Guide, Changeover, Puss in boots, Wild Robert, Yes, Dear
Gwyneth Jones, White Queen
Gerald Kersh, Men Without Bones
Laura Kinsale, My Sweet Folly
Russell Kirk, The Princess of All Lands
Nigel Kneale, Tomato Caine
Ronald A. Knox, The Footsteps at the Lock
William Kotzwinkle, Dr. Rat
Jane Langton, The Diamond in the Window
Emma Lathen, Come to Dust, Murder against the Grain, When in Greece, (as R. B. Dominic) Murder Sunny Side Up, Murder in High Places, There Is No Justice (A.P.A. Murder Out of Court), Unexpected Developments (A.P.A. A Flaw in the System), Epitaph for a Lobbyist, Murder out of Commission, The Attending Physician
Martha C. Lawrence, Murder in Scorpio, The Cold Heart of Capricorn, Aquarius Descending, Pisces Rising
Ursula K. Le Guin, Tales of Earthsea, The Other Wind
Fritz Leiber, Our Lady of Darkness
David Lodge, Trading Places
John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee mysteries
Ross Macdonald, The Way Some People Die, The Ivory Grin, Find a Victim, The Barbarous Coast, The Doomsters, The Instant Enemy, The Blue Hammer, The Name is Archer
Margaret Mahy, the books I don't have (i.e., everything except The Changeover, The Catalogue of the Universe, Memory)
William Mayne, Cuddy, Low Tide
Dave McKean, Cages
Naomi Mitchison, To the Chapel Perilous
Alan Moore, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, Promethea
Christopher Morley, Where the Blue Begins
Roger Norman, Albion's Dream
Anthony Price book which
Ellery Queen, The Spanish Cape Mystery, Halfway House, The Dragon's Teeth, The Finishing Stroke, The Fourth Side of the Triangle, A Study in Terror, The House of Brass
Paul Russell, Sea of Tranquility
Geoff Ryman, Lust
Sarah Schulman, People in Trouble
Bob Shaw, Night Walk
Sean Stewart, The Night Watch
Rex Stout, The League of Frightened Men, The Rubber Band, The Red Box, Too Many Cooks, Over My Dead Body, Where There's a Will, Black Orchids, Not Quite Dead Enough, And Be a Villain, The Second Confession, Trouble in Triplicate, In the Best Families, Three Doors to Death, Curtains for Three, Murder by the Book, Triple Jeopardy, Prisoner's Base, Three Men Out, Might As Well Be Dead, Three for the Chair, And Four to Go, Plot It Yourself, Three at Wolfe's Door, The Final Deduction, Homicide Trinity, The Mother Hunt, A Right to Die, Trio for Blunt Instruments, The Doorbell Rang, The Father Hunt, Death of a Dude
Theodore Sturgeon, Caviar, The Dreaming Jewels, Some of Your Blood
Somtow Sucharitkul, Starship, Haiku
Michael Swanwick, Stations of the Tide, The Iron Dragon's Daughter, Bones of the Earth
Donna Tartt, The Little Friend
Lucy Taylor, The Safety of Unknown Cities
Paul Theroux, The Black House
Cecelia Tishy, Jealous Heart, Cryin' Game, Fall to Pieces
Thomas Tryon, The Other
Jill Tweedie, Letters from a Fainthearted Feminist
Jack Vance (and, um, recommendations for where to start would be gratefully received)
Virgil, the Loeb with Aeneid 6-12 (I adore the Loebs, but I also despise and revile them for their habit of chopping up longer words between two books, because, you know, those little teeny red books, they ain't cheap)
Sylvia Townsend Warner, Kingdoms of Elfin, Mr. Fortune's Maggot
Colin Watson's Flaxborough books
Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer, Sorcery and Cecelia
John Wyndham, The Chrysalids
Roger Zelazny, A Night in the Lonesome October
POETRY
(This is just going to be a list of authors, because for many of them I haven't hunted out specific titles; some of these are poets I already own books by, and some of them aren't.)
William Carpenter
Fred Chappell
Babette Deutsch
William Dickey
Patricia Dobler
Susan Donnelly
Rita Dove
Alan Dugan
Stephen Dunn
Jane Flanders
Robert Frost
Alice Fulton
George Garrett
Sandra Gilbert
Elton Glaser
Patricia Hampl
Michael S. Harper
William Hathaway
Linda Hogan
Jonathan Holden
David Ignatow
X. J. Kennedy
David Kirby
Ronald Koertge
Jeanne Larsen
Sydney Lea
Adam LeFevre
Larry Levis
Philip Larkin
Philip Lopate
Susan Ludvigson
Charles Martin
Dan Masterton
Walter McDonald
Sandra McPherson
Peter Meinke
Lisel Mueller
Sharon Olds
Alicia Ostriker
Robert Pinsky
Stanley Plumly
Wyatt Prunty
Pattiann Rogers
Gibbons Ruark
Vern Rutsala
Harvey Shapiro
Richard Shelton
Peggy Shumaker
Cathy Song
Elizabeth Spires
Maura Stanton
David St. John
James Tate
Leslie Ullman
Constance Urdang
Michael Van Walleghen
David Wagoner
David Wojahn
Robert Wrigley
Paul Zimmer
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:22 am (UTC)For the fiction, if you did borrowing, I would be happy to lend you things. I don't think I've got extras of any of the above, although I'll check. I've only just given away *A Dead Man in Deptford* ("just" as in "the box is packed up but unaddressed"); I'd say it's a pity except that the Marlowe fan who is going to be surprised by it will be made happy, I hope.
Tell me about the pleasures of Nina Bawden, Edmund Crispin, Les Daniels, Mark Doty, Gerald Kersh, Russell Kirk, Emma Lathen, Martha Lawrence, Roger Norman, Cecelia Tishy, and Jill Tweedy.
I suspect Papersky recommended starting Anthony Price with Tomorrow's Ghost, and if she didn't, I do.
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:51 am (UTC)And you're welcome, of course, to borrow the Doty and the Russell.
Also? I'm rather jealous that your list of poets is so much more developed than mine. Though, in my defense, I do have a list of interesting one-offs to follow up on, prizewinners to check out, etc, that simply hasn't made it onto the computer file.
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:59 am (UTC)Mark Doty is a poet. Heaven's Coast is his autobiography, about the year his partner died of AIDS.
Edmund Crispin and Emma Lathen are both mystery writers. He's English, they (two women) are American. Crispin writes extremely self-conscious literary mysteries; his detective is Gervase Fen, a Puck-like don. The early ones are a little twee; I find the later ones strange and effective. Also enjoyable short stories. Emma Lathen's detective is a banker, John Putnam Thatcher, vice-president of the Sloan Guaranty Trust, third-largest bank in the world. The Lathen team know their stuff (one was an economist and the other a lawyer? polisci expert? something like that) and the books are very economical, full of fascinating details about banking, and frequently extremely funny. Lathen always gets described as a social satirist, but I think that's pitching it too strongly. The general air is one of infinite tolerance for the foibles of humanity. They're light reading, but very enjoyable. All out of print, of course, but used bookstores usually have a fair selection. It doesn't matter what order you read them in (although the last three or four show a distinct dropsical tendency); there is no narrative from book to book.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:10 am (UTC)Hee! Great title. I think I looked at this in the bookstore once. It can't remember much about it.
I could lend some of your list: CYTEEN, SISTER NOON, WHITE QUEEN, MY SWEET FOLLY, THE NIGHT WATCH, all 3 of those Sturgeons, and the Swanwicks except for BONES. MY Nero Wolfe is complete except for 3-4 of the "threesome" collection. I have (I think) a complete set of the Travis McGee books, but they are packed away with James Bond and would take some digging out.
I do own A NIGHT IN THE LONESOME OCTOBER but it's one of the few I don't lend out, so it's mean of me to tempt you, isnt' it?
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-03-03 08:30 am (UTC)But thank you!
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:33 am (UTC)Truly, do not put yourself out on my account. As with any good grail-knight, I love the searching as much as the finding. And I don't think I want the Bethke badly enough to warrant the effort.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:35 am (UTC)Rysmiel's presently reading them all in publishing order, and has got to but not yet read Other Paths to Glory.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:37 am (UTC)He's written two memoirs. Heaven's Coast is one of the most beautiful books I've ever read, and now I want to post excerpts from it. Firebird is disappointing in comparison. It's still reasonably good, I guess, but it's about Doty's childhood, and it tends to fall into very typical coming-out-story patterns in a way that irritated me a good deal as I read it. Also, the language isn't as gorgeous; it's a more typical memoir, whereas Heaven's Coast is an extended meditation on grief as much as a memoir of particular events.
It's especially fascinating to read HC after MA, because many of the poems in MA are about the same events later narrated in HC -- there are even some of the same turns of phrase -- but the whole thing has quite a different feel.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:42 am (UTC)I'm sure you have a good reason, but it has to be in every English Lit section of every university library in the world, surely? Even at what it does best, Possession makes it look like confetti.
I think Lodge is the most over-rated writer in the world. I cannot understand how people can take Lodge seriously and utterly dismiss Sumer Locke Elliott and Rumer Godden and Dodie Smith.
The other day I saw that Lodge's slight amusing offering Thinks has been translated into French as Pensees. Gack.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-03-03 08:47 am (UTC)Um, 'cause I've never read it?
I read one of his other books--the sequel or something--and not much liked it, and then everyone was raving about Lodge, and I thought maybe I'd missed something important due to being still in high school and not yet attuned to the delicate nuances of academic satire. But judging by your response, maybe not.
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Date: 2003-03-03 08:55 am (UTC)You *can* start anywhere with Price and go anywhere next (with the possible exception of A Prospect of Vengeance, which out to be read after The Old Vengeful and Here Be Monsters for best effect). The prose isn't amazing, but the structure of the series is amazingly innovative. The structure of the later individual novels is pretty damn good, too. I'd start with the ones in the middle of Price's publishing career, because the ones from the first half are so much weaker--decent thrillers, I guess, but you'd have to like thrillers. Other Paths to Glory is where he starts to get interesting, I think.
Outside the Gates is well worth seeking out, as is all of Molly Gloss. I snatched it up from a free books pile after having heard of it only through Dancing at the Edge of the World, and everything Le Guin says about it is absolutely right.
I have seconds for lots of the books on your list (even the ones I didn't suggest ;), but since they're already there, I'll try to refrain.
What makes Strangewood attractive? I have to admit I've always thought of Christopher Golden as a hack.
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Date: 2003-03-03 09:05 am (UTC)Peter Straub's The Hellfire Club, btw, disappointed me terribly (especially coming off The Throat), because it's The Tightrope Walker grafted into a serial killer story, to the profound detriment of the more interesting half and of the novel as a whole. It was maddening.
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Date: 2003-03-03 09:15 am (UTC)And, shameless self promotion, it's possible you might be interested in my short story with a related theme "Relentlessly Mundane" which is online at Strange Horizons.
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Date: 2003-03-03 09:32 am (UTC)Ooh, I didn't know you had a story up at Strange Horizons (possibly due to not paying quite enough attention at some critical moment?). I shall perambulate thitherwards and check it out.
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Date: 2003-03-03 09:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-03-03 11:11 am (UTC)I don't have the Seidman, as it turns out, but I do have an extra copy of Michael Swanwick's Griffin's Egg, if you should need one.
The Portrait of Mrs. Charbuque is on my mental "Wait for the paperback" list, especially since I own two other Jeffrey Ford books I haven't read yet, and his short fiction hasn't thrilled me.
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Date: 2003-03-03 12:49 pm (UTC)I think I've read all of Lodge, up to a few years ago, in a vain attempt to understand his standing in academic circles. I'd say the best one is Nice Work but they are all of them little slight things that would blow over at an eyeblink.
The sequel to Changing Places is Small World which is so unimpressive you couldn't use it to press a primrose.
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Date: 2003-03-03 04:06 pm (UTC)*blink* It's still being printed? Cool! Not that I'd understand word one, but a juvenile biography of Nathaniel Bowditch was one of my favorite books as a kid.
_The Iron Dragon's Daughter_ is deeply flawed but fascinating. And _Stations of the Tide_ stars the Continental Op, though I can't remember if Swanwick said so or he's merely recognizeable.
>Jane Langton, The Diamond in the Window
*brief moment of nostalgic gooping* Man, I loved that book. Alas, the sequels are mostly unimpressive, with the notable exception of _The Fledgling_.
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Date: 2003-03-03 11:25 pm (UTC)I think you'd also like Christopher Logue, if you haven't already tried him and hated him. He's a poet, and he did free verse adaptations of some books of the Iliad, particularly the death of Patroclus. He also wrote an ABC, which is unfortunately out of print (I think his Homer, by spectatular good taste of his publishers, is still in print) but which started with A for Aeschylus:
Aeschylus died, the Oracle said,
A tortoise landed on his head.
However, just before he died,
He wrote a play whose message read:
My city's leaders lied.
How very sensible of us,
The beneficiaries of Greece
And lesser sons of Aeschylus,
To doubt the facts of his decease
But let our leaders lie in peace.
Contemporary estimates
Rank truthful oracles as rare,
But not so rare
As aerial invertebrates.
Good luck on your want-list, and good hunting.
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Date: 2003-03-07 08:20 pm (UTC)I first got hooked on Vance through his fantasy: Lyonesse (which comes in three parts although the second two books are called by their part name, not the series name; the first is somehow mysteriously always called by the series name though it has a perfectly good part name). I reread them last year and found lots of it disturbing. Put it this way, if you enjoyed dissecting the sexual politics of Narnia, there's plenty to dissect here.
The other ones I've read (for the first time) as an adult are The Dying Earth, The Eyes of the Overworld and Cugel's Saga. I got them in a combined edition in the Fantasy Masterworks series called Tales of the Dying Earth, which concludes with Rhialto the Marvellous. By the time I finished Cugel's Saga, however, I needed a really big break. There's probably even less of the whole sympathetic female thing, but they are very very funny in many places. My partner and I still quote some of the more memorable lines at each other, and refer to Cugel irreverently as Kugelhopf the Clever.
Night Lamp was pretty good, space fantasy if you will. Again, some very very funny moments. Ports of Call seemed more like a series of vignettes about places and scenarios that coincidentally starred the same main character; it didn't do much for me.
I'd recommend starting with The Eyes of the Overworld and Cugel's Saga. If those appeal, try the Lyonesse series.
And I don't know if you've read Steven Brust or not, but if you haven't, do. A lot of the other things on your list seem...complementary to a Steven Brust-shaped hole.
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Date: 2003-03-08 08:05 am (UTC)I don't know about Steven Brust. I tried Jhereg and was entirely underwhelmed. Does he get better? Am I missing something?
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Date: 2003-03-08 05:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-03-12 08:13 am (UTC)I just started A.S. Byatt's A Whistling Woman, which opens with a children's quest fantasy during winter, which made me think of Greer Gilman's Moonwise and Neil Gaiman's Sandman: Game of You, both of which are about adults re-encountering the land of their childhood fantasies.