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Sarah/Katherine ([personal profile] truepenny) wrote2006-12-19 08:05 am
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Let's talk about sex.

ETA: since [livejournal.com profile] metafandom has apparently linked to this post sans context, let me state explicitly that I'm talking about the MISLABELING of original fiction featuring a same-sex relationship--as for example, [livejournal.com profile] matociquala's Carnival--as slash in reviews and commentary by people who are not slash writers themselves. I'm not trying to talk about what slash writers choose to do within their fandoms and communities. Not a slasher. Don't play one on TV. I'm arguing that slash, as a term, belongs to fanfiction, and should not be applied to works that are not fanfiction. My reasons for feeling as I do, explained in the following post, stem partly from my own career as a pro writer whose work features a lot of same-sex relationships, and partly from my appreciation, as a genre theorist, of the intertextual subversion inherent in what slash does.

The subtext, as Giles says to Buffy in "Ted," is rapidly becoming text.

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More specifically, let's talk about slash and why it is offensive and heteronormatizing to equate it with homosexual relationships.

The subversion/containment model (proposed by Foucault and applied by a bunch of New Historicist critics in the 1980s) has buried somewhere in the unexamined assumptions of its premise the notion that somehow subversion is bad. Or nonsustainable. Conservation of energy. A society tends to conserve the status quo.

This may be descriptively true (she says, looking dourly at her own society), but prescriptively, it sucks major moose cock, because it assumes that subversion exists to be contained. Hence Natalie Zemon Davis's elaboration of Foucault with her "pressure-valve" idea. (Which, btw, I think is incredibly helpful for understanding extremely conservative societies--like I said, descriptively the idea can be very helpful.)

Slash is subversion.

(For those of you who are still wondering what on earth I'm talking about, slash is a kind of fanfiction which posits a romantic/sexual relationship between two characters who in canon have no such thing. You might also describe it as an underground movement. It's named for the labelling convention that marks it; the first slash was K/S: Kirk-slash-Spock.)

Slash says, "These two canonically romantically-uninvolved characters have a close, intense, and obviously loving relationship. Our society--as inscribed on these characters by censorship and other kinds of normatizing pressure--does not allow that relationship to be developed in a sexual way. Let's transgress the taboo."

Now, obviously, that transgression can be done mindfully or otherwise, but the key component to slash is the overt sexualization of a non-sexual, or only subtextually sexual, relationship.

That relationship is, 9 times out of 10, between two men. Because, 9 times out of 10, the most intense and interesting relationship in any given canon is--wait for it--between two men. (And that has to do with a whole bunch of other factors and influences including, you know, four or five millennia worth of patriarchy.)

Now, why am I so adamant that slash is not the same as homosexual relationships?

Because I insist that homosexual relationships ought not to be categorized as subversive.

(Okay, yes, leftist liberal commie bitch, that would be me. Please don't tell me you're surprised.)

Labelling a homosexual relationship in a work of fiction as slash is wrong for a couple of reasons. One is that it's eliding the line between a work of fiction and commentary ON that work of fiction. I think it's inherent to slash that it is subverting and deconstructing and undercutting a canon text's assumptions about sexuality and love (using "text" here in a broad and metaphorical sense, rather than the literal one of words-printed-on-a-page). Slash is a game played with canon, and part of its value is in the tension it both creates and illuminates between canon text and subtext.

The other reason that it's wrong to label homosexual relationships, whether in or out of fiction, as slash is that it is reinscribing heteronormativity on our society and our discourse. It's a syllogism. Slash is gay sex. Slash is subversive. Therefore, gay sex is subversive. The subversion/containment model is a BOX, and as long as we keep putting homosexual relationships in that box, we are reinforcing the idea that heterosexuality is the standard by which all other sexualities will and ought to be judged. The same idea that is powering the (often hysterical) attempts to define marriage in such a way that gay and lesbian people cannot have it. Because their committed monogamous relationships are being judged as subversive.

And that's so horribly wrong that it's eaten all my words.

[identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow.

It didn't occur to me that people would do that.
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[personal profile] vass 2006-12-19 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they'd do that.

Then there were the people who really like mpreg... but were troubled by their Christian conviction that m/m relationships are wrong. So they stopped reading the m/m mpreg and stuck to the gen and het mpreg. And made the mistake of publicly posting about this personal decision. Wank ensued.

Fandom: stranger than we can imagine.

Oh dear!

[identity profile] dakiwiboid.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
There seem to be a lot of teenagers writing mpreg in the Potterverse, but I'm not always sure that they know that men can't get pregnant. Sigh. Some of them aren't sure how you tell when you aren't a virgin any more, to read what they write.

[identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to say -- there's nothing fandom hasn't and won't do. For instance, posit that hobbits should have wings, just because wings are cool. Also, see the fandoms that turn their amantes into penguins, because penguins are cool. Also -- did I ever tell the one about the hyperevolved evil overlord cats? (They were not Our Heroes; although they did oppress Our Heroes and provide obstacles to the consummation of Their True Love.)

While I suspect that degayification-fic is uncommon, and tends to provide grist for the fandom-wank mill, I've certainly seen it. Tara/Spike was one example (I never read any of it, so cannot summarize any reasoning/justification behind the impulse.)

Re: Tara/Spike

[identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
MENTAL FLOSS!

[identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
My eyeballs are now bleeding. BLEEDING.

[identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. Why should so few of us suffer, when we can spread the suffering around?

[identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Tara/Spike was one example (I never read any of it, so cannot summarize any reasoning/justification behind the impulse.)

Spinning a wild hypothesis here, to try to find a plausible rationale that does not boil down to something like "I don't like the gay and I want it to go away"; I have at some point somewhere in the vast volume of lj discourse on similar matters seen someone express that they found filmed sex scenes more charged if they involved actors whose gender preferences were other than those the characters in the scene were acting on; while I do not grok this charge by any means, I can see it as a basis whereby someone who wrote slash in the sense of canonically straight characters having gay relationships might also find canonically gay characters having straight relationships appealing.

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That "somewhere" was a gay friend of mine, in the comments to my post on Brokeback Mountain, who seemed to think that this was axiomatically how everyone felt.

After a bit of "it's more of a turn on if what?" I eventually filed it mentally under YKIOK.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Tara/Spike was one example (I never read any of it, so cannot summarize any reasoning/justification behind the impulse.)

Could be "ew, lesbian," could be "they would look pretty together!" could be
"I think those characters would have an interesting dynamic together," could be anything, really. I don't see it myself, but it doesn't strike me as a more outrageous pairing than, say, Xander/Spike.

[identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair, Xander/Spike ALSO makes my eyeballs bleed.

[identity profile] juliansinger.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Could you, um, at least identify where the hyperevolved Evil Overlord cats are from?
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Tara/Spike

[identity profile] scrollgirl.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only read a couple of Tara/Spike stories, and I don't know if those were representative of the genre, but I don't see that writing a gay character in a opposite-sex relationship is necessarily about de-gaying her. (I say "necessarily" because it could be, though thankfully I've rarely come across it.)

The fact that de-gaying is a serious issue in real life makes it problematic to write gay characters as straight in fic, but I don't think the authors writing Tara/Spike (at least that I've seen) have ever been about "curing" homosexuality. They're respectful of Willow/Tara (and Buffy/Spike) and of Tara as a lesbian, and it's more about exploring what Tara and Spike would be like as friends and lovers. It's about the characters, not about judging homosexuality.

(Probably the most well-known example of Tara/Spike is Soft (http://www.geocities.com/juliatheyounger/tara/soft.html) by [livejournal.com profile] juliatheyounger.)