5 things

Feb. 15th, 2010 12:52 pm
truepenny: artist's rendering of Sidneyia inexpectans (Default)
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1. This is now quite possibly my favorite ad of all time.

2. John Scalzi has declared this International Grover Appreciation Day. Personally, my heart belongs to Mr. Snuffleupagus.

3. I'm finally starting to feel better. I still clearly have a cold, but I don't feel like I'm devolving into some horrible crawling mucus-monster anymore. We're gonna count that as a win.

4. It's snowing.

5. This is going to sound flip, but I swear it's a serious question. Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?

I'm sure this question applies to all fiction--and, in fact, all projects--but I mean it specifically in terms of the sfnal or fantastic element. Because the telepathic dire wolves got me that way this morning. And, obviously, there's already been one book published about the telepathic dire wolves and people have not fallen over themselves laughing at it, so this isn't like a rational or legitimate concern--which is why I'm asking: does this happen to anyone else?

Date: 2010-02-15 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidmonster.livejournal.com
That whole "who is going to take this seriously!?" thing happened to me on my last story. It was just a short story, and the attack of the doubts didn't last terribly long, but it was a really sharp, clearly defined doubt that anyone could possibly care about this shit I was writing because it was dumb and stupid and also not smart.

Strangely enough it was also related to dire wolves, but in a fairly distant way.

The editor loved it.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sister-bluebird.livejournal.com
Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?

Yes, constantly. It usually follows right on the heels of the "this is the greatest idea ever" phase.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com
Dude. Everything we write is ridiculous. But the telepathic dire wolves are less ridiculous than anything in Dan Brown.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qnofhrt.livejournal.com
Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit?

Yes and it applies to more occupations than just writing.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alamaris.livejournal.com
Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?

Absolutely. And often. It's less about the writing quality or the story than it is about the strange elements in it, and how people will react to them. My worst point was a couple of years ago -- I sat back and said to myself, "WTF? No one is going to buy this. My main character is a partial albino with possessed hands, the love interest is a non-gendered desert chief, and there's snake gods and sentient cactus-monsters and..." It was a serious project. But when I thought too much about it, it was so far removed from your typical Fantasy that my brain short-circuited. After I realized that, it was easier. Sure, the story elements were a little weird, but I didn't want to have a typical story.

In the end, that's the reason why I buy your books. They're not full of hackneyed, overplayed genre conventions and cliches -- they're weird, original, and surprising. I think that's the market needs. "Average guy becomes hero, saves world, and gets girl in twelve volumes" isn't fun anymore, because everyone did it. I'm sure the telepathic dire wolves would get just as old if everyone wrote about them, but as far as I know, you and Bear are the first (and you do it well), and that's what makes them awesome.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?

All the damn time, particularly in a month I am dedicating to writing a grant application.

(Deep breaths, and reminding myself "it seems obvious and simple to you because you have been doing this specific thing in detail for eleven years and there are maybe half a dozen people in the world for whom this is true, and you've worked with enough of them that they won't be reviewing the thing because of conflict of interest issues" is sort of helping there. Sort of.)

Date: 2010-02-15 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samadi.livejournal.com
"Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?"

Yup.

Why would anyone ever want to read about a trip to hell set in not!Heian Japan, or a steampunk French Revolution?

No good answer, but if I don't write them, no one's going to get the choice.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-15 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pameladean
Oh yeah. Am having one right now. I just shovelled the entire front walk because I started the day with just that kind of moment. What the fuck is this shit, who is going to take this seriously, and since people have already taken much of it seriously WHAT the FUCK are you DOING making them THINK ABOUT IT any MORE?

Yeah.

The real world is even weirder, though.

P.

Date: 2010-02-15 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com
2. Someone mentioned "The Monster at the End of This Book" and suddenly I'm five years old again. Aw man, the golden days of Sesame Street. And to think my youngest sister barely watched the show at all.

Also, clearly Cookie Monster is the best SS Muppet.

Date: 2010-02-15 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callunav.livejournal.com
That commercial is so full of win it makes me wonder why I'm wasting my life not watching television.

The Running With the Squirrels one is pretty good, too.

Date: 2010-02-15 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassandraterra.livejournal.com
That ad is made of WIN. But not as much win as your writing. And it's good to have these WTF thoughts. It keeps you grounded and it does help the writing process because it makes you THINK. And even your WORST is 10,000 times better then anything that Twilight woman can write. Do not despair.

Glad you are feeling less like a mucus monster.

Date: 2010-02-15 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megan (from livejournal.com)
"And even your WORST is 10,000 times better then anything that Twilight woman can write."

While I agree with the sentiment, I can't help but feel it's an affront to the natural order of the universe to mention truepenny and the Twilight woman in the same sentence. :-)

That "WTF is this?" feeling is the reason this page exists: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BetterThanItSounds
I suppose everything's batshit insane if you look at it from the right perspective. Until the telepathic dire wolves sparkle in sunlight, it's all good.

Date: 2010-02-15 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Yes, I do get that feeling of "this is crazy stupid and nobody will ever take it seriously, not even the amount of seriously they will need to take it." "It's...well, okay, so you know the ballad of Tam Lin. Right: on ice. And then they sort of start smelling of magic so the other things start happening to...where are you going? Shit." Except that outside my head nobody is going anywhere, they're still buying the stories and reading the stories. So.

Date: 2010-02-15 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teriegarrison.livejournal.com
"5. This is going to sound flip, but I swear it's a serious question. Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?"

Excuse me, but who gave you permission to enter my brain and listen in? :-D (Hope that answers your question.)

Date: 2010-02-15 09:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer
Every. Single. Day.

Then I remind myself that I write comedy, and if they take it seriously the joke's on me -- while if they don't, the joke's on them.

---L.

Date: 2010-02-15 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
Well, yes. (Which is also a reminder to me that what feels dorky and stupid inside the writer's head may look like the Coolest Thing Ever from a different perspective.)

Date: 2010-02-15 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fidelioscabinet.livejournal.com
I love that ad with a passion slightly hotter than at least a dozen flaming suns, and am grateful to be living in the future so I can see it on the intertubes when I need a smile.

Also, my great accomplishment so far for February has been assisting with the processing of Santa Claus's claim for disability benefits, so yeah, [livejournal.com profile] pameladean is right that the real world is dam' strange, too.

Date: 2010-02-15 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiderweb-wine.livejournal.com
#5 - Yes. All the time, and not just about my current project. About my writing, and my beading, and the shirt I chose this morning, and the job I worked 6 years of university for.

I will read your telepathic dire wolves and promise not to laugh.

Date: 2010-02-15 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
I would pay a great deal of money to read about a steampunk French Revolution.

Date: 2010-02-15 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
The really funny thing about that ad? EDS was H. Ross Perot's company, and among Texas computer people, it was famous for being IBM-ier than IBM.

Date: 2010-02-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
heresluck: (kittens!)
From: [personal profile] heresluck
Do you ever have days where...

YES.

Case in point, ALL OF YESTERDAY.

::grumbles::

("Don't let anybody tell you it's easy.")

Date: 2010-02-15 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deliasherman.livejournal.com
Thanks. I needed the cat-herders break.

Yes, I go through what is this shit?. Every story. Every time. It's a stage, a phase, a thing. I sigh and try to ride it out. For some of us, it's clearly part of the process. But oh, how I wish it weren't!

Not the only one

Date: 2010-02-16 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katycooper.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com)
It's such a relief to know I'm not the only one. I struggle with this every day. I keep writing despite it, but it's always a struggle.

Date: 2010-02-16 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m-wesley.livejournal.com
On #5: I'm an amateur cartoonist rather than a writer, but I feel like that all the time.

Date: 2010-02-16 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassandraterra.livejournal.com
While I would never consider what's her name and truepenny in the same league my response was to make her feel better.

Oooo...telepathic dire wolves? Count me in!

Date: 2010-02-16 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aberrant1.livejournal.com
"Do you ever have days where you get up and look at your current project and think, What the fuck IS this shit? Who in their right mind is ever going to take this seriously?"

Every time I open the file.

Date: 2010-02-16 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megan (from livejournal.com)
Apologies, I meant the "affront to the natural order of the universe" comment as a joke, simply because the comparison wouldn't have occured to me ordinarily. Clearly it didn't come out as intented, and I apologize for that. Me and my big internet-mouth.

Date: 2010-02-16 06:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matt_doyle
I didn't used to have those moments, but I also used to be a very pretentious undergrad student who took things very seriously. Now? I have them all the time.

Date: 2010-02-16 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenora-rose.livejournal.com
1. That is pretty good.

5. All the time. Especially about the Fantastic elements. Current example; I'm writing a story set in a world decidedly based on the late 20th century Winnipeg, and the core magic doesn't come from any real world mythology or belief. And though I reconciled myself to that fact a long time ago, it keeps cropping up as "Nobody else will buy this stupid F**king premise. I might have got away with it if I could point to Welsh folk tales or Ojibway teachings or Persian myth as source. But nooo..."

Yet when I used selkies, researched significantly thoroughly and extrapolated from the implications of those stories, I kept thinking, "Everyone's going to roll their eyes at the hoary, unbelievable set of rules these overdone bits of folklore have."

Date: 2010-02-16 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
All the time.

Especially when somebody asks what something is about.

Date: 2010-02-16 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassandraterra.livejournal.com
That's ok. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't trying to insult anyone! All forgiven!

Can I have a telepathic wolf now?

Date: 2010-02-16 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiousangel.livejournal.com
That's a great ad, but I still prefer this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v_IYA99iL0). I'm a dachsie partisan, so I may not be rational on this.

Date: 2010-02-16 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
Hee. Thanks for the link.

Date: 2010-02-16 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
Oh lord. That question automatically drops fifty points of my IQ even before I start trying to answer it.

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