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Have finished Duffy. Hurrah!

Next up will be David Cressy, Birth, Marriage, and Death, although probably only the Death part. February is sliding past.

But in the meantime, my Books to Look For from Duffy's bibliography.


First off, I do heartily recommend the one book in Duffy's bibliog. that I have read: Peter Brown, The Body and Society: Men, Women, and Sexual Renunciation in Early Christianity, London, 1989. I read it for a History of the Body class as an undergraduate senior, and I still remember it as a really fantastic book. If, of course, you're interested in that sort of thing.

Then, my list of books I'll be hunting for. (Duffy uses some weird citation system that doesn't take the publisher's name in the entry. I think this is completely fucked up. I'm just sayin'.)

Adair, J. The Pilgrim's Way: Shrines and Saints in Britain and Ireland, London, 1978.

Aries, P. The Hour of Our Death, London 1981.

Ashley, K. and Sheingorn, P. Interpreting Cultural Symbols: St. Anne in Late Medieval Society, Athens and London, 1990.

Bennett, H. S. English Books and Readers 1475-1557, 2nd ed., Cambridge, 1970.

Clark, J. M. The Dance of Death in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, Glasgow, 1950.

Clay, R. M. The Hermits and Anchorites of England, London 1914.

---. The Medieval Hospitals of England, London, 1909.

[I'm never going to find these, but it would be really cool if I did.]

Cressy, D. Bonfires and Bells, London, 1989.

Farmer, D. H. The Oxford Dictionary of Saints, Oxford, 1978.

Finucane, R. C. Miracles and Pilgrims: Popular Beliefs in Medieval England, London, 1977.

Gratton, J. H. G. and Singer, C. Anglo-Saxon Magic and Medicine, London 1952.

Hall, D. J. English Medieval Pilgrimage, London, 1965.

Heffernan, T. J. Sacred Biography: Saints and their Biographers in the Middle Ages, New York and Oxford, 1988.

Hole, C. Saints in Folklore, New York, 1963.

Hughes, J. Pastors and Visionaries: Religion and Secular Life in Late Medieval Yorkshire, Woodbridge, 1988.

Kerry, C. "Hermits, Fords, and Bridge-Chapels," Derbyshire Archaeological Journal, XIV, 1882, pp. 54-71.

[I'm not going to find this one, either.]

McKenna, J. W. "Piety and Propaganda: the Cult of Henry VI" in B. Rowland (ed.), Chaucer and Middle English Studies, London, 1974, pp. 72-88.

---. "Popular Canonization as Political Propaganda: the Cult of Archbishop Scrope," Speculum, LXV, 1971, pp. 608-23.

Mitchiner, M. Medieval Pilgrim and Secular Badges, London, 1986.

Ridyard, S. The Royal Saints of Anglo-Saxon England, Cambridge, 1989.

Sumption, J. Pilgrimage, London, 1975.

Taylor, J. H. M. (ed.), Dias Ille: Death in the Middle Ages, Liverpool, 1984.

Ward, B. Miracles and the Medieval Mind, Aldershot, 1987.

and one more, who's cited in the text and listed in the index, but mysteriously not in the bibliography:

Thomas, K. Religion and the Decline of Magic.

Date: 2003-02-13 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Religion and the Decline of Magic is a slog, it's one of those books that you're glad you've read and equally glad not to have to read again -- Thomas does not have good flow.

Date: 2003-02-13 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
*sigh*

I was afraid of that.

I wish someone could explain to me when and WHY it was decided that academic prose had to equal BORING. Those who aren't, like Duffy or Booth, are either subtly subverting it (Duffy likes the same kind of dry, polysyllabic humor that I do) or are rejecting it (Booth's tone is unabashedly autobiographical). I think it's one of the reasons for the much bewailed (among academics) schism between academia and The Common Man. If your writing is supposed to show you belong to this exclusive smarter-than-thou club, you can't expect non-club members to care.

Ahem. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Date: 2003-02-14 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renenet.livejournal.com
Clay, R. M. The Hermits and Anchorites of England, London 1914.

---. The Medieval Hospitals of England, London, 1909.

[I'm never going to find these, but it would be really cool if I did.]


Do you mean to purchase or just to read? 'Cause, dude, your library owns them. I mean, Hermits and Anchorites is checked out right now, but still. You'll need to spell "medieval" as "mediaeval" to look the second one up by title or just search by Clay, Rotha Mary. We have the hospitals one here. It's illustrated (a bunch of b&w plates as well as in-text illustrations). Looks nifty.

Kerry, C. "Hermits, Fords, and Bridge-Chapels," Derbyshire Archaeological Journal, XIV, 1882, pp. 54-71.

[I'm not going to find this one, either.]


It looks like this might be a sloppy citation on Duffy's part, since this journal only took this name in 1961. Prior to that it was titled Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society. Your library doesn't have volumes back that far (although it would be cake for them to get the article for you via ILL--and I think you wouldn't even have the comfort of your home for any part of that process), but I've requested v. 14 out of storage here, and if I'm right about the name thing, I'll bring you a photocopy of the article when I visit next week. You know, because I can.

Honestly, I'm trying not to librarian you too much--only once or twice a week. This is me exercising restraint. Please note that I searched only for the items you indicated doubts about obtaining. Also note that I confined myself to library solutions and did not seek out online purchase options for old books. [Edited before posting to add: okay, I lie. I just went and looked. $30-$120] Looking this stuff up is much more interesting to me than any of the work piled up in my office here at work, but I'll stop for now.

Date: 2003-02-14 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renenet.livejournal.com
you wouldn't even have the comfort of your home

you wouldn't even have to leave the comfort of your home

(boy, that makes a difference in the meaning of that sentence! Verbs=good.)

Date: 2003-02-14 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
You can be St. Renenet in my church any time. *g*

I was simply forgetting, as I occasionally do, that I do in fact have access to a world-class research library. I have a Thing about owning books (much like [livejournal.com profile] heres_luck), but these particular books I don't really think I'd need THAT badly. (Although if there are pictures, I might be wrong.)

And if you could bring a hard copy of the Kerry that would be just neat.

Date: 2003-02-14 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renenet.livejournal.com
Yes. I was mulling over what I know of your Thing about owning books and weighing it against the practicality of waiting to read all of those books until you found and purchased them, site unseen, based on Duffy's use of them. And that just wasn't resolving itself in an entirely satisfactory way in my head, so I intruded with my own bias. Bless you for letting me get away with that and beatifying me in the process. Your graciousness means that I'm legitimately neither shocked nor disappointed that you forget about your world-class research library, as I feel I technically should be, given my predilections. For the record? That's a clear sign that you've really arrived in my affections, since it seems pretty clear to me that I'm applying the foibles principle* to you in this matter.

*you can ask [livejournal.com profile] heres_luck for a definition. I *think* she has a solid grasp on how I apply the foibles principle. (She'd better, since she's the beneficiary of it all the damn time.)

Date: 2003-02-15 12:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heresluck
Well, I can always consult my reference materials, i.e. the e-mail in which you once explained it at great and amusing length. See? I'm no librarian, but I can be taught.

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